HAHAHA STOOPID GOONIE IM ON FIRE AND YOU CANT STOP ME

Not being a null dweller I will not comment on how this will affect gameplay there.

What I do want to comment is that if i were to come on to the forums and whine that my Hulk got blown up while I was AFK how much sympathy would I get? Not one damn bit. In fact I would be told about how poor my play style is?

Think about it.

Dear goons

Please never, ever, ever change.


New update on the siphon stats:
Harvest 30 pages of goon tears per day .

At least not whiles it's AFK passive income.

Moon mining should be something a player has to get into a ship and undock for.

That is quite a naive comment when you actively cultivate your collective persona as griefers and scammers.

Tell me, what would the public goon response be to a change that was good for smaller groups but bad for CFC? Because whatever the truth, I guarantee that the vast majority of pubbies would say 'exactly the same'.

Feel absolutely free. If you had any idea who I was you'd know I celebrate this sort of thing. I will also gladly go around emptying the siphons you so generously put up for me. :)

I don't find it realistic for any single entity, not even the CFC, to seed these all over the universe and keep emptying the goo and replacing any destroyed ones for any sort of extended period. This would be a remarkable feat and I guess in this case it could be argued that the feature succeeded in providing a lot of content for a large group of players :)

Yes because once conquered the victors should be able to put their feet up, smoke cigars, drink brandy and laugh at the puny lower class people and worker slaves forced to actually work for an income in Eve.

I'll leave the maths to someone else,

Moon mining is not passive income. Moon mining is PvP income. I will keep repeating this until people who have never fought over a POS get the idea.

I think this is really well thought out. It takes power out of the hands of alliance leadership, and allows small entities or their own line members! - to get their hands on the moon goo. This means that moon goo will never be as subject to restricted supply and market manipulation as was seen in the days of OTEC/NOTEC. This will be good for the market overall and contrary to some goon claims, will make the market more resilient.

I also see this as an opening up of moons to all players. Realistically you need to be in a group of a certain size to control a moon and engage in PVP. This means that for much of the player-base, moon goo means exactly nothing to them. After this change, even a solo player will be able to fly around hunting for siphons others have placed, or dropping their own. This definitely adds depth, and things to do to the game for all players which is A Good Thing.

There will be more activities to conduct while roaming through enemy territory - dropping siphons, or collecting from them (a little?). This might give more reasons to roam, and cause people to spend more time in systems which I suspect will mean there is a greater chance for battles to occur. Perhaps systems owners will even leave one siphon in each system to provide an ambushing point?

Uh

did you just denigrate someone for not "living in their space"

while being in one of the most icebergtastic nullsec alliances in the game

It's critical that the moment you set up the siphon, resources begin to be irrecoverably lost.

In fact, when t fills up, it should just jetcan the stuff and start filling up. Of course after 2 hours the jetcan goes poof. Remember the siphon could be emptied by anyone anyway.

How do you expect that a small group of players can loot multiple containers under POS' guns?

If a guy is carrying around 500 of these siphons, at about 10m a piece, he's an idiot with 5b of siphons in his cargo and we all get a good laugh.

People wont be stupid enough to carry 500 of these things at a time, totaling at 5b--what am i saying, ofc someone will, but they'll be retarrded and die and we all laugh

I have no love for Goons nor any of the major alliances. As a solo / small corporation player they burn Jita, gank you and other wise **** you off. They don't care so why should I.

I do however love this idea and I plan to make lots of these wee beasties. I don't really care if they get blown up after 10 mins or 24hrs. I am doing it for ***** and giggles pure and simple.

If I make any ISK I will be delighted but just getting back at some of those tossers in Alliances, especially goons will make my day just that little sweeter.

Goons, your moon goo is all mine.

Then bring the shitstorm over our heads, I dare you. CCP said they are going to observe the effect they have in the game, so do your worse.

On the other hand, people are going to enjoy a lot having the chance to mess with the big guys in the hood (me included) If the price is reasonable, I would do it even losing money, just for giggles and fun.

It's not their depart, but the threatening and the sweet tears what matters

The existence of one bad mechanic does not justify adding two more on top of it.

We also know that, despite their constant attempts to change it, they are pretty much stuck with POS'es as they exist already. The guys who coded them left CCP a long time ago, and did not leave notes. I believe that there's a blue post to that effect floating around somewhere.

nice those bitter goon tears, please go on...

Seriously it's like we are Cassandra, blessed with the power of prophecy, yet cursed with no one believing our prophecy.

Sure looks like goons issued a CTA to this dev blog.

Maybe they don't like the idea that their precious AFK moon mining will actually require them to stop ratting and get off their arse to manage them.

Mmmmm.....Relevant.

Well, your the goon, and lets be honest, lemmings are not the brightest lamp in the street. Leave being bright to the ones that are.

Actually, it's always the same dozen or so goons. There's a reason for that...

You telling me only a dozen or so goons can read / write?

Actually, to be quite honest, there was no related broadcast. It was just us discussing this thing on our evil out-of-game communication software that somehow led us all to come a-postin'

I have honestly never even seen moon goo and I wouldn't know where it comes from if I bumped up against it and decloaked myself, but I do love a good troll. I have also never pubicly agreed with the goons on anything but I have to admit i'm about to. I forecast the goons will take this s**t sammich, forge it into a big spiked di*do and ram it back up everyones as**s in such a manner that I will see most of you here on the 'OMG siphons OP please CCP make it stop" threadnought in six months. You little "i'm gonna take it to the big guys!!" people keep your chins up...your gonna need it.

The amount of posturing and whining by goons in this thread shows how good an idea it is.

10 mill is too expensive for these siphons. The ones planted at valuable moons will just get blown up, while the ones planted at worthless moons won't run a profit, because it'll never be worth a pilot's time taking what they siphon.

They need to be cheaper to see significant use.

But as a goon you are the 1%

If you drop two per POS, and visit a POS every minute, this will take you about 173,000 years. not including DT, of course. I applaud your commitment!

Giving the locations to newbies is a good idea though.

I see that progodlegend will triumph over the empty husks of our unmaintained pos

Anyone else seeing an exciting new use for these SoE ships?

Raise the prices and i (people) just have to steal more. At least now people have a chance to compensate unimposed prices.

And most people just dealt with all the threatsGäó of rising prices since all that OTEC/NOTEC trolling of last year.

Assuming this isnt one of those threatsGäó that prices will rise; on a individual level if you steal only 50m a month its already profitable compensating for moon minerals. The T2 ingredients in modules dont cost that much, even after an increase.

People dont stop ganking freighters because 'the market would run out of cheap supply'. Yet with every ganked freighter some materials are gone forever.